1 00:00:17,830 --> 00:00:16,790 why did you want to be an astronaut 2 00:00:18,790 --> 00:00:17,840 well 3 00:00:20,630 --> 00:00:18,800 you know i 4 00:00:22,470 --> 00:00:20,640 have to admit i i grew up 5 00:00:25,109 --> 00:00:22,480 watching a lot of star trek 6 00:00:27,429 --> 00:00:25,119 with my dad and he was a he was a space 7 00:00:28,630 --> 00:00:27,439 fanatic this was in montreal 8 00:00:30,230 --> 00:00:28,640 and uh 9 00:00:31,589 --> 00:00:30,240 you know and on you know space program 10 00:00:33,030 --> 00:00:31,599 was was 11 00:00:34,950 --> 00:00:33,040 budding and 12 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:34,960 and uh you know he would also you know 13 00:00:38,470 --> 00:00:36,880 uh see the you know pictures of mission 14 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:38,480 control and say who are those guys how 15 00:00:41,990 --> 00:00:39,600 do they get to work there that's got to 16 00:00:43,110 --> 00:00:42,000 be the most amazing job in the world 17 00:00:45,830 --> 00:00:43,120 and um 18 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:45,840 and the funny thing was you know for me 19 00:00:50,389 --> 00:00:48,399 my dad said that he knew captain kirk 20 00:00:52,709 --> 00:00:50,399 because he knew him from high school in 21 00:00:55,029 --> 00:00:52,719 montreal and so at that age i was 22 00:00:58,310 --> 00:00:55,039 probably five or six you know and i and 23 00:00:59,990 --> 00:00:58,320 uh and so it was a strange mixture of 24 00:01:01,990 --> 00:01:00,000 fiction and reality like i knew this was 25 00:01:03,590 --> 00:01:02,000 fiction on the other hand that my dad 26 00:01:06,149 --> 00:01:03,600 knows this guy 27 00:01:07,910 --> 00:01:06,159 you know and i somehow that maybe made 28 00:01:10,149 --> 00:01:07,920 things seem more possible to me i don't 29 00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:10,159 know but then we went on a 30 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:12,000 family vacation to florida it was that 31 00:01:16,550 --> 00:01:13,920 it was the time of apollo 11. so we got 32 00:01:19,510 --> 00:01:16,560 to see the launch of apollo 11 um 33 00:01:21,270 --> 00:01:19,520 uh on a family vacation there i was six 34 00:01:24,070 --> 00:01:21,280 and um 35 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:24,080 and uh that was it that i told my dad uh 36 00:01:27,350 --> 00:01:25,280 at that point 37 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:27,360 i wanted to do that and never changed my 38 00:01:30,069 --> 00:01:28,320 mind 39 00:01:31,350 --> 00:01:30,079 i want to get you to take us through 40 00:01:34,469 --> 00:01:31,360 that story i want to start with your 41 00:01:36,069 --> 00:01:34,479 hometown or home towns uh tell me about 42 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:36,079 where you grew up and and what it was 43 00:01:39,749 --> 00:01:37,520 like there 44 00:01:42,069 --> 00:01:39,759 well i grew up in montreal originally 45 00:01:44,230 --> 00:01:42,079 until about 11 and then moved to 46 00:01:45,270 --> 00:01:44,240 california 47 00:01:46,710 --> 00:01:45,280 my dad 48 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:46,720 felt that california was the land of 49 00:01:49,510 --> 00:01:48,399 opportunity at the time and he was 50 00:01:50,630 --> 00:01:49,520 probably right 51 00:01:52,870 --> 00:01:50,640 and 52 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:52,880 in both places we sort of we also had 53 00:01:55,590 --> 00:01:54,479 like a really small country house you 54 00:01:58,230 --> 00:01:55,600 know so i 55 00:02:01,109 --> 00:01:58,240 a lot of my memories are spent you know 56 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:01,119 uh spending time around a small lake and 57 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:03,360 and uh swimming and boating and things 58 00:02:05,990 --> 00:02:04,560 like that and playing around in the 59 00:02:08,389 --> 00:02:06,000 woods and 60 00:02:09,669 --> 00:02:08,399 also i was in scouts you know so i think 61 00:02:12,630 --> 00:02:09,679 a lot of my a lot of my childhood 62 00:02:14,150 --> 00:02:12,640 memories are camping and backpacking and 63 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:14,160 spending time in the mountains and some 64 00:02:17,110 --> 00:02:15,680 of that's with family and some of that's 65 00:02:18,070 --> 00:02:17,120 with friends and 66 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:18,080 um 67 00:02:21,670 --> 00:02:20,400 but i grew up in san jose uh basically 68 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:21,680 went to high school in san jose 69 00:02:24,150 --> 00:02:22,800 california 70 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:24,160 and uh 71 00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:28,800 you know when i was there i think 72 00:02:32,309 --> 00:02:30,000 most of the 73 00:02:34,790 --> 00:02:32,319 you know the inspiration i think for me 74 00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:34,800 was from my my parents and my teachers 75 00:02:41,509 --> 00:02:38,400 you know so you do have a sense that the 76 00:02:43,670 --> 00:02:41,519 people in those places and and 77 00:02:45,670 --> 00:02:43,680 really help make you who you are 78 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:45,680 yeah my dad was uh my dad was a 79 00:02:49,030 --> 00:02:47,519 mathematician and a quality control 80 00:02:51,030 --> 00:02:49,040 engineer so he was a kind of a 81 00:02:53,110 --> 00:02:51,040 perfectionist so i would i'd come back 82 00:02:53,830 --> 00:02:53,120 you know if i got a 97 on an exam you 83 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:53,840 know 84 00:02:58,869 --> 00:02:57,840 instead of that's great 85 00:03:00,070 --> 00:02:58,879 and uh 86 00:03:01,190 --> 00:03:00,080 so 87 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:01,200 you know an interesting thing for i 88 00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:03,440 think for me coming from 89 00:03:08,309 --> 00:03:06,239 montreal to california was that um you 90 00:03:09,509 --> 00:03:08,319 know it's kind of a reflection on our 91 00:03:11,830 --> 00:03:09,519 education system and why it's so 92 00:03:13,589 --> 00:03:11,840 important that we try to improve it and 93 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:13,599 then i was i was three years ahead in 94 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:16,239 math coming in fifth sixth grade from 95 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:18,640 montreal 96 00:03:22,949 --> 00:03:20,080 so much so that they didn't have a book 97 00:03:24,710 --> 00:03:22,959 for me uh at the elementary school and 98 00:03:26,470 --> 00:03:24,720 so i spent the rest of that year 99 00:03:28,309 --> 00:03:26,480 tutoring like the the kids who needed 100 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:28,319 help in math 101 00:03:31,830 --> 00:03:29,519 which is kind of formative for me 102 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:31,840 because i kind of tutored the rest of my 103 00:03:35,589 --> 00:03:33,519 time through school in college and and 104 00:03:38,869 --> 00:03:35,599 then you know and then taught later you 105 00:03:40,949 --> 00:03:38,879 know in you know after finish school 106 00:03:44,229 --> 00:03:40,959 so in six months in space did you get a 107 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:44,239 chance to see montreal in san jose 108 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:46,080 yeah yeah that was a really there was a 109 00:03:50,630 --> 00:03:48,799 really uh neat neat uh moment for me in 110 00:03:52,149 --> 00:03:50,640 uh in on the space station it was one 111 00:03:53,910 --> 00:03:52,159 day and i think was pretty early on in 112 00:03:55,270 --> 00:03:53,920 the mission when i we were flying over 113 00:03:56,149 --> 00:03:55,280 north america 114 00:03:59,910 --> 00:03:56,159 and 115 00:04:02,869 --> 00:03:59,920 up in san jose as a teenager in in 116 00:04:04,869 --> 00:04:02,879 montreal as a young boy um 117 00:04:06,789 --> 00:04:04,879 you know all my memories you know from 118 00:04:09,190 --> 00:04:06,799 you know from childhood took place in 119 00:04:10,949 --> 00:04:09,200 you know basically those places and and 120 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:10,959 you know and places in between on trips 121 00:04:15,670 --> 00:04:12,480 you know my family took across the 122 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:15,680 country uh you know camping trips in the 123 00:04:19,749 --> 00:04:18,160 sierras or you know so all the places 124 00:04:21,270 --> 00:04:19,759 that really all the places that i had 125 00:04:23,110 --> 00:04:21,280 had been you know 126 00:04:25,030 --> 00:04:23,120 uh i got to see them in about three 127 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:25,040 minutes you know so like every place i'd 128 00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:27,360 ever been and everybody i you know i 129 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:29,440 knew and and all the memories i had i 130 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:30,960 could just kind of look down and relive 131 00:04:35,030 --> 00:04:33,040 them all in about three minutes and it 132 00:04:36,550 --> 00:04:35,040 was unbelievable that's not the same as 133 00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:36,560 your life flashing before your eyes not 134 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:38,240 exactly 135 00:04:42,150 --> 00:04:40,800 um yeah let's tell me more of the story 136 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:42,160 from give me 137 00:04:46,390 --> 00:04:43,840 the sense of your educational your 138 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:46,400 professional career that ultimately led 139 00:04:51,270 --> 00:04:48,960 you to become an astronaut 140 00:04:53,350 --> 00:04:51,280 well actually after high school 141 00:04:55,510 --> 00:04:53,360 i went to cal poly 142 00:04:58,629 --> 00:04:55,520 san luis obispo in california started 143 00:05:00,469 --> 00:04:58,639 off in physics and uh you know i really 144 00:05:02,710 --> 00:05:00,479 was excited about physics but i but i 145 00:05:04,870 --> 00:05:02,720 really liked um 146 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:04,880 robots for some reason i think part of 147 00:05:08,390 --> 00:05:06,720 it was the idea of um 148 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:08,400 it was kind of a new it was it was a new 149 00:05:12,870 --> 00:05:10,720 field at that time really and and i kind 150 00:05:14,710 --> 00:05:12,880 of like the idea of uh you know 151 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:14,720 programming logic that comes out of your 152 00:05:18,230 --> 00:05:16,080 head into 153 00:05:20,950 --> 00:05:18,240 into a system and then and then watching 154 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:20,960 it you know live in the sense and act on 155 00:05:23,590 --> 00:05:22,720 logic that you gave it you know in other 156 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:23,600 words 157 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:25,120 i suppose it has this this sense of 158 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:26,880 creating life in a way because it you 159 00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:29,039 know you give it something and then it 160 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:30,560 uses that and 161 00:05:33,830 --> 00:05:32,240 and operates from there and 162 00:05:37,189 --> 00:05:33,840 and so i change over to electrical 163 00:05:39,830 --> 00:05:37,199 engineering and um and so i you know i 164 00:05:41,430 --> 00:05:39,840 uh and my my senior project there was a 165 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:41,440 robot um 166 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:42,720 the first one that i had made and that 167 00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:44,160 was that was really pretty cool did it 168 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:45,840 with a roommate who was also in 169 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:47,680 mechanical engineering so he did all the 170 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:49,919 mechanical engineering part of it 171 00:05:54,070 --> 00:05:52,400 and um but during college there was two 172 00:05:56,150 --> 00:05:54,080 things that happened that really were 173 00:05:58,790 --> 00:05:56,160 meaningful to me uh one was 174 00:06:00,950 --> 00:05:58,800 that it was um during my freshman year 175 00:06:02,790 --> 00:06:00,960 it was the first flight of the shuttle 176 00:06:04,390 --> 00:06:02,800 and i i just remember so vividly being 177 00:06:07,270 --> 00:06:04,400 in the dormitory you know people 178 00:06:08,469 --> 00:06:07,280 gathered to watch this the first flight 179 00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:08,479 and um 180 00:06:12,629 --> 00:06:10,400 and and for me you know i'd i'd want to 181 00:06:14,950 --> 00:06:12,639 do this all my life but there wasn't 182 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:14,960 either yet wasn't any um 183 00:06:20,150 --> 00:06:17,680 urgency or sense of direction you know 184 00:06:21,110 --> 00:06:20,160 of how to do it 185 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:21,120 and 186 00:06:24,309 --> 00:06:22,560 as soon as that happened i said i got 187 00:06:26,950 --> 00:06:24,319 called asa and asked him what i have to 188 00:06:28,790 --> 00:06:26,960 do so it's the first time i reached out 189 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:28,800 and tried to find out like who at nasa 190 00:06:32,950 --> 00:06:31,360 could tell me what to do and 191 00:06:35,590 --> 00:06:32,960 you know found the astronaut selection 192 00:06:37,270 --> 00:06:35,600 office and um and and heard back from 193 00:06:38,790 --> 00:06:37,280 them you know and you know and they kind 194 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:38,800 of give everybody the same advice you 195 00:06:41,749 --> 00:06:40,160 know which is 196 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:41,759 do the you know be the best you can be 197 00:06:46,469 --> 00:06:43,840 at whatever you choose to do don't focus 198 00:06:48,230 --> 00:06:46,479 your career on trying to do this but but 199 00:06:50,150 --> 00:06:48,240 just be the best you can be and and 200 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:50,160 follow what your you know your your 201 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:52,160 interests and um 202 00:06:55,350 --> 00:06:54,080 so i never got a b again in college 203 00:06:57,270 --> 00:06:55,360 after that 204 00:06:59,189 --> 00:06:57,280 i just i just i couldn't allow that to 205 00:07:02,469 --> 00:06:59,199 happen and uh 206 00:07:04,790 --> 00:07:02,479 and so that worked out well for me 207 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:04,800 and and in the end um 208 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:06,720 at graduation at cal poly so now this is 209 00:07:10,550 --> 00:07:08,800 the end of those four years 210 00:07:12,550 --> 00:07:10,560 something another thing happened and so 211 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:12,560 in between you know it was just college 212 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:15,039 and had a good time and worked hard and 213 00:07:18,309 --> 00:07:16,960 and uh made a lot of great friends 214 00:07:19,670 --> 00:07:18,319 lifelong friends 215 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:19,680 and at the end 216 00:07:24,390 --> 00:07:22,319 graduation there was uh 217 00:07:26,150 --> 00:07:24,400 our graduation speaker was an astronaut 218 00:07:28,070 --> 00:07:26,160 the first one that i ever met so that 219 00:07:29,350 --> 00:07:28,080 was hoot gibson i didn't know this was 220 00:07:31,430 --> 00:07:29,360 coming it just suddenly there was an 221 00:07:34,390 --> 00:07:31,440 astronaut talking at graduation 222 00:07:36,150 --> 00:07:34,400 and because i did so well i got to go up 223 00:07:38,469 --> 00:07:36,160 to the podium to get an award so i got 224 00:07:40,150 --> 00:07:38,479 to you know and instead of walking back 225 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:40,160 to my seat i turn around and walk toward 226 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:42,560 him sitting on the stage to shake his 227 00:07:44,469 --> 00:07:43,360 hand 228 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:44,479 and um 229 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:46,000 later on i got to remind him of that he 230 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:47,039 remembered it because it was kind of out 231 00:07:50,869 --> 00:07:49,280 of out of order to do that 232 00:07:52,309 --> 00:07:50,879 and 233 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:52,319 so that was a really neat kind of 234 00:07:55,430 --> 00:07:53,520 inspiration 235 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:55,440 you know that kind of block that kind of 236 00:07:59,350 --> 00:07:56,720 you know 237 00:08:00,550 --> 00:07:59,360 bracketed my college education was you 238 00:08:02,230 --> 00:08:00,560 know 239 00:08:03,749 --> 00:08:02,240 seeing the shuttle first go and then an 240 00:08:06,629 --> 00:08:03,759 astronaut at the end and that that 241 00:08:08,230 --> 00:08:06,639 really focused me um in college then i 242 00:08:10,629 --> 00:08:08,240 went to cal tech after that 243 00:08:12,390 --> 00:08:10,639 uh for a master's went uh kind of turned 244 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:12,400 to arrow i mean i always 245 00:08:15,589 --> 00:08:13,680 was interested in aero but electrical 246 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:15,599 engineering was also uh i grew up in 247 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:17,759 silicon valley you know so this was the 248 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:19,120 job security 249 00:08:22,869 --> 00:08:20,400 path as well 250 00:08:23,749 --> 00:08:22,879 and field my dad was in essentially and 251 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:23,759 uh 252 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:26,240 um but turned toward arrow did a masters 253 00:08:30,469 --> 00:08:28,400 in era with caltech um 254 00:08:32,630 --> 00:08:30,479 and maybe at cal tech i the thing that 255 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:32,640 you know i kind of learned at caltech is 256 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:33,440 uh 257 00:08:36,149 --> 00:08:34,560 you know there's a lot of brilliant 258 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:36,159 people in this world and i wasn't one of 259 00:08:39,589 --> 00:08:38,159 them 260 00:08:41,269 --> 00:08:39,599 it's people who are brilliant and these 261 00:08:42,709 --> 00:08:41,279 people have to really work really hard 262 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:42,719 to achieve and i'm in the second 263 00:08:46,710 --> 00:08:43,919 category 264 00:08:47,670 --> 00:08:46,720 uh and then i went to mit after that for 265 00:08:49,910 --> 00:08:47,680 uh 266 00:08:50,949 --> 00:08:49,920 the rest of my graduate work for a phd 267 00:08:51,829 --> 00:08:50,959 and um 268 00:08:53,190 --> 00:08:51,839 uh 269 00:08:54,949 --> 00:08:53,200 did a really neat thing about being 270 00:08:56,949 --> 00:08:54,959 there was 271 00:08:59,670 --> 00:08:56,959 i was working at draper laboratory for 272 00:09:01,590 --> 00:08:59,680 as a research assistant while 273 00:09:03,829 --> 00:09:01,600 being a grad student and i got to work 274 00:09:06,470 --> 00:09:03,839 on nasa programs for the first time so 275 00:09:08,310 --> 00:09:06,480 the hubble telescope i got to work on 276 00:09:09,910 --> 00:09:08,320 analysis for that for the release of it 277 00:09:11,670 --> 00:09:09,920 from the shuttle and i got to work on 278 00:09:14,230 --> 00:09:11,680 the shuttle auto pilot and i got to work 279 00:09:15,829 --> 00:09:14,240 on space station later and so i got to 280 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:15,839 work on real nasa programs which felt 281 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:18,480 made me feel like i was getting closer 282 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:21,440 and then i after i finished graduate 283 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:23,440 school i taught and my wife and i my 284 00:09:29,670 --> 00:09:28,150 was finishing medical school and we 285 00:09:31,350 --> 00:09:29,680 decided to spend a couple years doing 286 00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:31,360 something different so we went to sydney 287 00:09:34,630 --> 00:09:32,560 australia 288 00:09:36,949 --> 00:09:34,640 and i taught in the university there 289 00:09:37,990 --> 00:09:36,959 aeronautics for a couple years 290 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:38,000 and 291 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:42,160 nasa you know for like you know 10 years 292 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:44,160 and finally got interviewed and then 293 00:09:48,949 --> 00:09:46,560 after uh getting disqualified for a 294 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:48,959 medical condition which was devastating 295 00:09:54,389 --> 00:09:52,080 that cleared up and then i was i got in 296 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:54,399 you know two years later after already 297 00:09:57,590 --> 00:09:56,560 coming to houston so i worked in houston 298 00:09:58,790 --> 00:09:57,600 for a couple years as a flight 299 00:10:01,190 --> 00:09:58,800 controller 300 00:10:03,190 --> 00:10:01,200 before getting selected so that's the 301 00:10:05,750 --> 00:10:03,200 that was the path 302 00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:05,760 the flying in space part of the job that 303 00:10:10,550 --> 00:10:08,480 you've worked so long and hard to get 304 00:10:12,230 --> 00:10:10,560 is a part that that has its dangers 305 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:12,240 there's no denying that 306 00:10:17,590 --> 00:10:14,720 but greg what is it that you feel we get 307 00:10:20,949 --> 00:10:17,600 as a result of flying people in space 308 00:10:22,949 --> 00:10:20,959 that makes it worth taking that risk 309 00:10:24,470 --> 00:10:22,959 well there's no there's no you know 310 00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:24,480 there's a saying there's no reward 311 00:10:29,750 --> 00:10:27,760 without risk and you know and also 312 00:10:31,350 --> 00:10:29,760 you know if it's worth doing it's worth 313 00:10:33,590 --> 00:10:31,360 doing well and i think from nasa's 314 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:33,600 perspective that means doing it safely 315 00:10:37,829 --> 00:10:36,000 you know and so these are we take 316 00:10:39,430 --> 00:10:37,839 measured risks you know i mean you know 317 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:39,440 what we're trying what we do we believe 318 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:41,040 and we think is very important and and 319 00:10:44,470 --> 00:10:42,720 we do everything possible to make sure 320 00:10:45,750 --> 00:10:44,480 that there's backups and redundancies 321 00:10:48,069 --> 00:10:45,760 and checks to make sure that it's as 322 00:10:49,350 --> 00:10:48,079 safe as it possibly can be but having 323 00:10:51,190 --> 00:10:49,360 said that you know yeah there's 324 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:51,200 certainly an element of risk 325 00:10:54,069 --> 00:10:52,480 and um 326 00:10:55,269 --> 00:10:54,079 but uh 327 00:10:56,790 --> 00:10:55,279 you know it's 328 00:10:58,949 --> 00:10:56,800 it's sort of uh 329 00:11:01,030 --> 00:10:58,959 the sense of um 330 00:11:02,710 --> 00:11:01,040 you know we've we've ex you know it's 331 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:02,720 part of human nature to explore and be 332 00:11:07,350 --> 00:11:04,240 curious and want to know new things and 333 00:11:09,269 --> 00:11:07,360 i my uh my kids are are five right now 334 00:11:10,630 --> 00:11:09,279 and it's neat because they it must have 335 00:11:13,190 --> 00:11:10,640 been a teacher that told them you know 336 00:11:14,710 --> 00:11:13,200 that uh you know we're so we do science 337 00:11:16,949 --> 00:11:14,720 because we're curious you know so they 338 00:11:18,710 --> 00:11:16,959 say they say i'm curious i'm going to be 339 00:11:21,269 --> 00:11:18,720 a scientist you know which is really 340 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:21,279 cute and you know and and you know this 341 00:11:24,630 --> 00:11:22,800 the science and exploration i mean 342 00:11:26,710 --> 00:11:24,640 that's what it is it's you know it's 343 00:11:28,630 --> 00:11:26,720 it's we're curious you know species we 344 00:11:30,310 --> 00:11:28,640 want to understand things and and uh 345 00:11:31,030 --> 00:11:30,320 that's what our exploration is all about 346 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:31,040 and 347 00:11:35,110 --> 00:11:33,600 you know i feel like we're kind of 348 00:11:36,550 --> 00:11:35,120 living you know if once you've been in 349 00:11:38,790 --> 00:11:36,560 space and you can look down on the earth 350 00:11:40,790 --> 00:11:38,800 and see the whole earth floating you 351 00:11:43,350 --> 00:11:40,800 know in emptiness 352 00:11:44,949 --> 00:11:43,360 uh with your own eyes 353 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:44,959 you really get the sense of 354 00:11:48,949 --> 00:11:47,040 this is a this is a small part of what 355 00:11:50,629 --> 00:11:48,959 there is to know about you know and it's 356 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:50,639 so important and we've explored it you 357 00:11:54,550 --> 00:11:52,320 know quite thoroughly and there's still 358 00:11:56,870 --> 00:11:54,560 plenty more to you know to learn and 359 00:11:58,389 --> 00:11:56,880 explore on on earth but there's so much 360 00:12:00,230 --> 00:11:58,399 more out there 361 00:12:02,150 --> 00:12:00,240 we just have to be out there you know 362 00:12:03,269 --> 00:12:02,160 exploring it and 363 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:03,279 and uh 364 00:12:06,949 --> 00:12:04,880 you know i think it's just it's it's 365 00:12:09,430 --> 00:12:06,959 destiny it's our future we have to do it 366 00:12:10,870 --> 00:12:09,440 and and um and this is the beginning of 367 00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:10,880 it and i you know it's very exciting to 368 00:12:17,750 --> 00:12:12,160 be part of it and 369 00:12:23,030 --> 00:12:19,870 greg you're a member of shuttle mission 370 00:12:24,790 --> 00:12:23,040 sts-134s crew just summarize the overall 371 00:12:26,550 --> 00:12:24,800 goals of this mission and tell me what 372 00:12:27,910 --> 00:12:26,560 your major responsibilities on this 373 00:12:29,110 --> 00:12:27,920 flight are going to be 374 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:29,120 sure 375 00:12:32,629 --> 00:12:30,720 yeah i think the probably the most 376 00:12:35,269 --> 00:12:32,639 significant thing on this flight without 377 00:12:37,509 --> 00:12:35,279 a doubt is the ams the alpha magnetic 378 00:12:39,829 --> 00:12:37,519 spectrometer that we're flying up 379 00:12:42,310 --> 00:12:39,839 this is a physics experiment 380 00:12:44,949 --> 00:12:42,320 it's a two billion dollar 381 00:12:46,310 --> 00:12:44,959 experiment built by 15 countries and 382 00:12:48,389 --> 00:12:46,320 this will be installing this on top of 383 00:12:50,069 --> 00:12:48,399 the space station and there's there's no 384 00:12:51,269 --> 00:12:50,079 doubt this is probably going to be you 385 00:12:52,790 --> 00:12:51,279 know one of the most significant 386 00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:52,800 contributions to the science on the 387 00:12:56,069 --> 00:12:54,800 space station in the years to come so 388 00:12:57,670 --> 00:12:56,079 that that's a that's a very big part of 389 00:13:00,949 --> 00:12:57,680 the mission is getting that installed 390 00:13:02,389 --> 00:13:00,959 safely and correctly and um 391 00:13:05,030 --> 00:13:02,399 in addition to that there's a platform 392 00:13:07,110 --> 00:13:05,040 we have it's called uh elc 3. it's a 393 00:13:08,470 --> 00:13:07,120 logistics platform it goes outside also 394 00:13:10,470 --> 00:13:08,480 it gets installed another part of the 395 00:13:11,509 --> 00:13:10,480 truss and it has spare equipment 396 00:13:13,190 --> 00:13:11,519 basically 397 00:13:14,389 --> 00:13:13,200 uh there's a list of equipment on i 398 00:13:16,389 --> 00:13:14,399 could give you but essentially it's 399 00:13:18,230 --> 00:13:16,399 there to enable us to keep flying the 400 00:13:19,750 --> 00:13:18,240 space station you know for the next 10 401 00:13:21,269 --> 00:13:19,760 years and and have the spare equipment 402 00:13:23,110 --> 00:13:21,279 that we need 403 00:13:24,150 --> 00:13:23,120 and then we have a series of spacewalks 404 00:13:25,509 --> 00:13:24,160 on the mission 405 00:13:26,470 --> 00:13:25,519 i'm excited to be doing a couple of 406 00:13:28,550 --> 00:13:26,480 those 407 00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:28,560 and uh and some of that is maintenance 408 00:13:33,509 --> 00:13:30,880 some of it is uh science related some of 409 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:33,519 it is um installing some new equipment 410 00:13:36,389 --> 00:13:35,040 and so i think between those four 411 00:13:38,389 --> 00:13:36,399 spacewalks and all the robotics 412 00:13:39,990 --> 00:13:38,399 operations to install the two big 413 00:13:42,230 --> 00:13:40,000 payloads that come up in the payload bay 414 00:13:44,150 --> 00:13:42,240 those are the priorities of the mission 415 00:13:46,389 --> 00:13:44,160 almost everybody on this crew has been 416 00:13:48,310 --> 00:13:46,399 to the space station before in fact you 417 00:13:50,470 --> 00:13:48,320 and mike fink have had long duration 418 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:50,480 stays on the station before 419 00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:52,560 has that really benefited the group of 420 00:13:57,670 --> 00:13:56,160 you as you prepare to fly sts-134 oh i'm 421 00:14:00,230 --> 00:13:57,680 sure you know 422 00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:00,240 we all we all feel that it has and a lot 423 00:14:03,829 --> 00:14:02,560 of you know in the training 424 00:14:06,230 --> 00:14:03,839 it makes a huge difference because we 425 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:06,240 know exactly what to expect uh you know 426 00:14:09,750 --> 00:14:07,440 i think you know as you say especially 427 00:14:11,110 --> 00:14:09,760 for mike and i you know we were up there 428 00:14:12,470 --> 00:14:11,120 actually overlap for about six weeks 429 00:14:14,389 --> 00:14:12,480 we're there together 430 00:14:15,829 --> 00:14:14,399 and uh 431 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:15,839 during the time that i was there in the 432 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:17,199 time he was there there were multiple 433 00:14:20,870 --> 00:14:18,880 shuttle missions coming and going so the 434 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:20,880 whole the whole dynamic of a shuttle 435 00:14:25,509 --> 00:14:23,040 coming up to the space station uh the 436 00:14:27,110 --> 00:14:25,519 two teams working together um you know 437 00:14:29,189 --> 00:14:27,120 how the space station prepares for us 438 00:14:30,629 --> 00:14:29,199 you know which i did for another shuttle 439 00:14:32,069 --> 00:14:30,639 how we work together when we're up there 440 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:32,079 and then of course using all the systems 441 00:14:35,269 --> 00:14:33,519 on the space station 442 00:14:37,030 --> 00:14:35,279 in our case especially the airlock on 443 00:14:38,389 --> 00:14:37,040 the space station you know for the space 444 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:38,399 walks 445 00:14:41,509 --> 00:14:40,480 so all that is so familiar to to mike 446 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:41,519 and i 447 00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:42,800 it helps throughout the training because 448 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:44,880 we can bring up you know these these 449 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:46,320 points that are relevant you know as 450 00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:47,440 they come up for the shuttle crew that 451 00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:49,519 hasn't necessarily uh 452 00:14:54,069 --> 00:14:51,600 seen all these things and roberto too 453 00:14:56,230 --> 00:14:54,079 roberto you know has been there on the 454 00:14:57,750 --> 00:14:56,240 soyuz twice so he's also got that same 455 00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:57,760 familiarity with it with the space 456 00:15:00,310 --> 00:14:58,959 station so 457 00:15:01,189 --> 00:15:00,320 it helps a lot of the training i know 458 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:01,199 during the mission it's gonna make 459 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:03,360 things go a lot smoother 460 00:15:06,069 --> 00:15:04,880 and uh we'll know how to treat the space 461 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:06,079 station guys because we know how we 462 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:06,800 would 463 00:15:10,949 --> 00:15:08,560 like to be treated when shuttle crew 464 00:15:12,790 --> 00:15:10,959 came up and we were helping them and uh 465 00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:12,800 so it's a really helpful thing i think 466 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:14,160 it's it's uh it's great and we're 467 00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:15,120 looking forward to seeing the space 468 00:15:18,310 --> 00:15:16,240 station again i can't wait to see it 469 00:15:20,069 --> 00:15:18,320 again well yeah you've done six months 470 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:20,079 on the station so now you're looking at 471 00:15:23,269 --> 00:15:22,000 going for just a shorter period of time 472 00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:23,279 but you're also going to a station 473 00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:25,040 that's changed since you were there so 474 00:15:29,110 --> 00:15:26,800 so what are your expectations about what 475 00:15:30,949 --> 00:15:29,120 you're going to see when you arrive 476 00:15:32,870 --> 00:15:30,959 yeah i can't wait to to get there again 477 00:15:34,710 --> 00:15:32,880 you know it like say was it was home for 478 00:15:36,150 --> 00:15:34,720 me for six months you know and i and i 479 00:15:38,710 --> 00:15:36,160 feel that way about it it's you know 480 00:15:41,110 --> 00:15:38,720 it's a place i've lived in my life for a 481 00:15:42,230 --> 00:15:41,120 significant chunk of my life 482 00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:42,240 and 483 00:15:47,430 --> 00:15:45,680 has changed the one one big change i 484 00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:47,440 think that i'll notice is the cupola 485 00:15:59,269 --> 00:15:48,639 window 486 00:16:00,470 --> 00:15:59,279 side the japanese modular or spectacular 487 00:16:02,230 --> 00:16:00,480 windows 488 00:16:03,910 --> 00:16:02,240 but the cupola you know you can move 489 00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:03,920 into it and have windows all around it's 490 00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:06,959 a you know 360 degree panoramic view 491 00:16:09,829 --> 00:16:08,399 that's going to be spectacular to see 492 00:16:11,430 --> 00:16:09,839 that and there'll be additional modules 493 00:16:13,350 --> 00:16:11,440 it'll be even bigger you know even 494 00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:13,360 harder to find somebody than it was when 495 00:16:18,949 --> 00:16:15,199 i was up there 496 00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:18,959 before i had you know we were ready to 497 00:16:23,910 --> 00:16:21,839 do spacewalk if we needed to and 498 00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:23,920 i had a suit ready you know for me there 499 00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:25,920 that i bumped into as i flew past it 500 00:16:29,509 --> 00:16:28,160 every day and uh did a lot of work in 501 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:29,519 the in the airlock but never had a 502 00:16:32,629 --> 00:16:31,120 chance to go outside nothing broke you 503 00:16:34,069 --> 00:16:32,639 know we're kind of you know in a funny 504 00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:34,079 way hoping for something really small 505 00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:35,600 and simple to break so we could go out 506 00:16:39,749 --> 00:16:37,519 and fix it but so i'm very excited this 507 00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:39,759 time to get a chance to actually go out 508 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:40,959 the hatch and see the outside of the 509 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:43,680 space station so i can't wait for that 510 00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:45,040 let me get you to tell us a little bit 511 00:16:47,590 --> 00:16:46,639 more about the the stuff that you're 512 00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:47,600 bringing 513 00:16:52,069 --> 00:16:50,000 express logistics carrier three you 514 00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:52,079 referred to before tell me what its 515 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:54,560 function is on orbit so this is a 516 00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:56,480 basically a platform 517 00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:58,320 that sits in the shuttle cargo bay and 518 00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:59,519 it'll move and it'll be installed 519 00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:01,680 outside on the truss on the station 520 00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:03,360 what's on it is things that have to be 521 00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:05,360 outside or will be used outside the 522 00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:07,439 spare equipment one thing is a is a tank 523 00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:09,360 a high pressure tank for the airlock 524 00:17:13,029 --> 00:17:11,120 another thing is a spare 525 00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:13,039 part of one of the robotic arms it's 526 00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:15,280 called spdm special purpose dexterous 527 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:17,760 manipulator part of the canadian robotic 528 00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:19,679 arm system and it's a spare 529 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:21,360 manipulator for that 530 00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:25,120 um there's some extra antennas on it for 531 00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:26,720 our s-band radio 532 00:17:31,510 --> 00:17:29,200 and so there's spare equipment on this 533 00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:31,520 platform that we'll be installing and 534 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:33,280 setting up one of the spacewalks will 535 00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:35,440 involve um making sure some of that 536 00:17:40,470 --> 00:17:38,080 equipment is ready to be used when when 537 00:17:42,470 --> 00:17:40,480 needed and it'll it'll be out there you 538 00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:42,480 know over the next 10 years you know and 539 00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:44,400 hope and you know as needed equipment 540 00:17:48,390 --> 00:17:46,160 will come off of that that platform to 541 00:17:49,510 --> 00:17:48,400 be used to replace things as they as 542 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:49,520 they wear out 543 00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:51,280 so it's not anything that we have to 544 00:17:56,549 --> 00:17:54,240 have right now that's right prepping for 545 00:17:58,710 --> 00:17:56,559 stocking the pantry that's right exactly 546 00:18:00,710 --> 00:17:58,720 how does it go from getting in the 547 00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:00,720 payload bay out onto the trust what's 548 00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:02,000 the procedure for getting it out well 549 00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:04,320 the procedure's all robotic and and a 550 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:06,160 lot of us on this crew are involved to 551 00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:08,640 make this all happen uh two guys uh in 552 00:18:12,150 --> 00:18:10,960 that case uh i believe it's mike and 553 00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:12,160 roberto 554 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:14,400 they'll be doing the uh shuttle robotic 555 00:18:17,190 --> 00:18:16,000 work so they'll take the they'll take it 556 00:18:18,549 --> 00:18:17,200 out of the payload bay with the shuttle 557 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:18,559 robotic arm 558 00:18:21,909 --> 00:18:20,480 and they'll basically bring it out and 559 00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:21,919 put it in a position where we can reach 560 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:23,919 it with the station robotic arm 561 00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:26,240 box and i will be on the station side 562 00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:28,559 and we'll move the space station 563 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:30,559 robotic arm into position to grapple it 564 00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:32,320 once we grapple it then they can release 565 00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:33,520 it 566 00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:42,240 on the trust we have these mechanisms uh 567 00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:44,320 for attaching external payloads and they 568 00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:46,000 basically have they have guide veins so 569 00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:47,120 you can bring it in you know and they 570 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:48,880 have targets and camera systems so you 571 00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:51,600 could uh steer it in you know perfectly 572 00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:53,360 and uh so we'll be doing all of that and 573 00:18:56,470 --> 00:18:55,440 then and then there's a basically a big 574 00:18:57,990 --> 00:18:56,480 claw 575 00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:58,000 that you know once and once the 576 00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,760 mechanism for the claw is in operation 577 00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:01,520 the claw grabs the capture bar and then 578 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:02,799 pulls it down and pulls it tight and 579 00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:05,280 holds it in place so um 580 00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:06,880 if everything works right you know it'll 581 00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:08,559 be that claw will stay closed and it'll 582 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:10,640 be solidly attached you know forever at 583 00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:12,960 that point and there's also 584 00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:14,400 some electrical umbilicals that have to 585 00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:16,400 connect to it and uh so another motor 586 00:19:20,789 --> 00:19:18,559 mechanism has to move into place and 587 00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:20,799 provide power data communication to 588 00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:23,440 everything that's on the platform and so 589 00:19:27,909 --> 00:19:25,840 box and i are taking turns uh in that 590 00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:27,919 case i'll be flying the robotic arm and 591 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:29,440 he'll be doing the mechanisms on the 592 00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:31,600 attachment system and then the next day 593 00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:33,520 we'll do a similar thing for ams where 594 00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:35,360 we'll swap roles 595 00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:38,480 so for ams installation you'll be on the 596 00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:40,480 station arm side as well yeah so it's 597 00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:42,960 for ams installation uh 598 00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:44,640 again on the shuttle side and this time 599 00:19:49,909 --> 00:19:47,840 i believe it's drew with roberto 600 00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:49,919 flying the shuttle arm moving ams new 601 00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:51,440 position with very similar thing 602 00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:53,120 different position uh different side of 603 00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:54,640 the space station 604 00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:57,840 uh so the you know from the robotic 605 00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:59,280 team's point of view everything's 606 00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:00,720 different but from our point of view you 607 00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:03,039 know it's it's a similar you know or 608 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:04,159 from a general point of view it's quite 609 00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:06,320 similar and that station arm grabs it 610 00:20:10,789 --> 00:20:09,120 puts it into place mechanisms grapple it 611 00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:10,799 pull it down and 612 00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:13,120 so you know it takes quite a few hours 613 00:20:16,950 --> 00:20:14,880 you know it's it's it's a tricky 614 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:16,960 operation the tolerances are really 615 00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:18,960 tight you don't have camera views that 616 00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:21,120 show you you know clearances between you 617 00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:22,960 know things that you would like to to 618 00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:24,880 know for sure that you're not hitting so 619 00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:26,320 it takes some training to make sure you 620 00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:27,520 know what we know we know we know 621 00:20:30,149 --> 00:20:29,120 exactly what we're expecting and get it 622 00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:30,159 in there right 623 00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:31,679 and but 624 00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:33,280 if all goes well you know it should be 625 00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:34,320 no problem 626 00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:36,720 i have to say on the on the for the ams 627 00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:38,400 which is the very expensive payload you 628 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:40,320 know the one that's most important um 629 00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:41,679 the attachment mechanism we're putting 630 00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:43,039 it on doesn't have the same level of 631 00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:44,400 redundancy as some of the other 632 00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:46,159 attachment mechanisms in other words 633 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:48,400 there's not two motors if one fails 634 00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:51,520 for attaching it for example so i'll be 635 00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:54,240 breathing a little better after we've 636 00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:56,080 that's been completed and i know that 637 00:20:59,110 --> 00:20:57,520 it's attached 638 00:21:01,350 --> 00:20:59,120 successfully just because i don't we 639 00:21:03,190 --> 00:21:01,360 don't have the redundancy there 640 00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:03,200 you know if something does go wrong is 641 00:21:08,149 --> 00:21:06,960 that a possible contingency eva task did 642 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,159 you guys have prepared there's some 643 00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:10,080 potential tasks we could do you know 644 00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:12,640 there's but there's a couple of fallback 645 00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:14,559 uh things we can do and it's possible to 646 00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:16,240 keep the ams on the robotic arm 647 00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,039 overnight if we have to do that it has 648 00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:21,280 it can provide build power to it through 649 00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:24,240 the robotic arm so yeah we have we have 650 00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:26,000 some backup plans hopefully we don't 651 00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:28,400 need them right 652 00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:30,240 fill me in on the alpha magnetic 653 00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:33,120 spectrometer what does it do once it's 654 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:34,960 in that position out on the station's 655 00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:37,200 truss well this is an amazing instrument 656 00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,039 you know the ams 657 00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:41,280 as you said alpha magnetic spectrometer 658 00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:42,159 uh 659 00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:43,919 in my mind this is like the hubble space 660 00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:46,080 telescope i mean it has the same type of 661 00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:49,600 potential for revolutionizing uh revolu 662 00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:51,280 revolutionizing our understanding of the 663 00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,679 of the universe um it's looking at 664 00:21:57,029 --> 00:21:55,280 cosmic rays 665 00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:57,039 so it's different than a normal 666 00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:58,799 telescope 667 00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:01,200 and as it's collecting cosmic rays you 668 00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:02,799 know it's basically able to measure mass 669 00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:04,400 the direction they came from the energy 670 00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,320 they have and and and whether they're 671 00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:08,240 also matter or anti-matter 672 00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,640 and um so i think you know fundamentally 673 00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:12,559 you know it's designed to look look for 674 00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:16,080 antimatter and dark energy dark matter 675 00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:17,600 but it's looking at all cosmic ray 676 00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:18,880 particles and the thing is that on the 677 00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:20,960 ground they've been trying to simulate 678 00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:22,159 uh 679 00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:24,480 or create you know nuclear different 680 00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:26,880 nuclear particles with these acceler 681 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:28,240 accelera 682 00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:33,520 and um 683 00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:34,960 and the energy levels they've reached on 684 00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:36,480 the ground are still in order of 685 00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,640 magnitude or more or less than what's in 686 00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:40,799 free space so it's possible that they're 687 00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:42,640 going to see things that you know first 688 00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:43,600 of all they'll see the natural 689 00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:45,520 background distribution of these kind of 690 00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:47,919 particles and they'll see possibly some 691 00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:49,520 ones that have not been able to create 692 00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:50,880 in the laboratory 693 00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:52,640 so there's a lot of potential for 694 00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:54,640 discovery and the other thing is that 695 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:55,440 um 696 00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,880 you know it knows where the particle is 697 00:22:59,909 --> 00:22:58,240 coming from because if it could be 698 00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:59,919 pointing at a galaxy and if if 699 00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:01,760 anti-matter particles start showing up 700 00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:03,919 in the detector you know it could be 701 00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:05,440 telling us that that galaxy is an 702 00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:07,440 antimatter galaxy and you know the whole 703 00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:09,919 universe was supposedly uh in the big 704 00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:12,559 bang theory made you know in equal parts 705 00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:14,799 anti-matter and matter but now what we 706 00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:17,200 see is essentially all matter 707 00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:18,880 as far as we know 708 00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:20,159 and it turns out that this thing can 709 00:23:24,149 --> 00:23:22,400 detect you know uh anti-matter 710 00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,159 uh particles in a you know at a certain 711 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:26,480 level it'll help understand help us 712 00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:28,240 understand you know the the nature of 713 00:23:31,830 --> 00:23:30,240 the evolution of the universe so it's 714 00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:31,840 some pretty interesting things and also 715 00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:33,440 i think the 716 00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:34,799 the um 717 00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:36,480 you know the thing that hubble did for 718 00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:38,240 us that was very one one major thing 719 00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:40,320 hubble did for us was very interesting 720 00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:41,520 was uh 721 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:42,559 you know 722 00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:44,960 we knew that the universe was expanding 723 00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:46,240 and we wondered whether or not there's 724 00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:48,080 enough gravity for it to stop expanding 725 00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,520 and recollapse or whether or not it 726 00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:51,600 would expand forever or you know and 727 00:23:55,029 --> 00:23:53,120 hubble figured out that not only is it 728 00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:55,039 expanding but the rate of expansion is 729 00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:56,240 increasing 730 00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:58,400 and how how does that happen with normal 731 00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:59,679 gravity you know so there's something 732 00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:01,279 else we don't understand 733 00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:03,679 and uh you know and that has to do 734 00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:06,159 potentially with with dark matter and 735 00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:09,279 and dark energy and so if if ams helps 736 00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:11,120 us understand these things i think the 737 00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:13,360 you know the concepts of anti-matter uh 738 00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:16,240 how anti-matter and matter um you know 739 00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:18,159 work and and how gravity works these are 740 00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:19,520 fundamental concepts we still don't 741 00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:21,279 really understand doesn't fit into the 742 00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:23,200 grand unified theory yet 743 00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:24,880 and uh you know just like when we 744 00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:26,559 figured out electromagnetism we have 745 00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,080 things like you know tvs and 746 00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:30,320 communications and satellites and 747 00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:32,640 and uh and all this technology based on 748 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:34,080 our understanding of electromagnetism 749 00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:35,520 and so i think you know this is the 750 00:24:38,789 --> 00:24:36,799 beginning of the next phase of 751 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:38,799 understanding physics that could really 752 00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:41,120 um be important for the future so it's 753 00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:42,480 pretty pretty interesting stuff that 754 00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:43,520 they're looking at it's fundamental 755 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:45,520 physics but in the long run i think it 756 00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:47,760 has you know great potential for 757 00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:50,080 uh pushing us to the future so very 758 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:51,919 interesting stuff and in this case as i 759 00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:53,919 understand it correctly the station is 760 00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:56,559 used as a platform for ams but the crew 761 00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:58,400 members on board don't really have any 762 00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:01,120 anything to do with it helping it take 763 00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:02,640 its readings or measurements right it 764 00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:04,559 collects an incredible amount of data 765 00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:07,279 and uh you know it's looking at um you 766 00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:08,400 know all the particles coming through 767 00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:10,000 the detector and we're talking you know 768 00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:12,320 you know many particles per you know 769 00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:14,240 let's say let's say nanosecond or 770 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,720 whatever and uh and it's figuring out 771 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:18,080 which you know which ones came in the 772 00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,440 right way and left the right way so they 773 00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:21,440 can match up you know that the one that 774 00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:23,679 left through this surface was the one 775 00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:25,039 that came into this surface so it has a 776 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,960 lot of there's a lot of analysis to do 777 00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:29,039 to figure out to match up you know 778 00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:30,799 accident entry points and 779 00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:33,120 and um and uh and you know figure out 780 00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:34,720 the curvature of particles in there and 781 00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:36,640 figure out the mass and so a lot of that 782 00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:38,320 raw data goes down to the ground there's 783 00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:40,159 some onboard computation and data 784 00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,679 compression and then it all goes down to 785 00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:43,679 the ground and and there'll be terabytes 786 00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:45,360 and terabytes and terabytes of data for 787 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:47,840 physicist analytes for the next 10 years 788 00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:50,559 keep them busy no doubt no doubt 789 00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:52,080 you mentioned a few minutes ago that the 790 00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,440 plan for this 791 00:25:57,669 --> 00:25:55,440 mission also calls for four spacewalks 792 00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:57,679 by three different teams of spacewalkers 793 00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:59,760 tell me what your role as 794 00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:01,440 as a member of this team is going to be 795 00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:04,159 on this flight sure uh you know this is 796 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:05,760 a really exciting uh part of the 797 00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:07,360 training in preparation to just being 798 00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:09,120 part of this team as you said there's 799 00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:11,600 three of us so uh drew feustel he's 800 00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:14,159 gonna be the lead space walker um and 801 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:16,320 mike fink and i mike fink's done several 802 00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,000 spacewalks on the russian segment before 803 00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:20,080 for me this is this is the first time 804 00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:22,159 and the three of us work in it working a 805 00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:24,559 team for all the spacewalks so 806 00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:26,240 two of them on any particular spacewalk 807 00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:28,559 two go out the door the other one is uh 808 00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:30,559 works inside we call them iv and those 809 00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,520 guys evie and uh and the iv is the sort 810 00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:35,520 of task master the one who's got keeper 811 00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:37,600 of the master plan you know okay next 812 00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:39,120 we're doing this next you're doing this 813 00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:40,799 and you know and as things evolve you 814 00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:41,919 know if they change a little bit is the 815 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:43,279 one who's keeping track of everything 816 00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,880 and also communicating with the ground 817 00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:46,799 and and being the interface between you 818 00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:48,400 know the crew in the ground and the plan 819 00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:51,200 and the and the you know and the and um 820 00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:52,720 you know how well the suit is doing and 821 00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:54,080 how much time we have left and all and 822 00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:55,039 everything 823 00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:57,600 and we just kind of rotate that so on on 824 00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:00,559 eva one i'm out the door with with drew 825 00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:01,919 mike's iv 826 00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:05,360 and then eva2 i'm uh ev i'm internal i'm 827 00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:07,120 iv and those two guys are out the door 828 00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:08,720 and we we rotate that way through all 829 00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:11,360 those space walks so uh in combination 830 00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:13,360 then with the ground team you know the 831 00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:14,799 we we have a whole team of folks that 832 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,799 have been working on us now you know by 833 00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:18,480 the time we fly it'll probably be two 834 00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:19,840 years you know that they've all been 835 00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:22,159 working on this and uh so it's a really 836 00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:25,039 neat team of folks really focused on on 837 00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:27,200 making all this happen and 838 00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:28,960 who knows if we'll execute it exactly as 839 00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:32,080 planned but you know we uh we train to 840 00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:35,200 be able to be flexible and uh but it's 841 00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,799 exciting to be part of that team and and 842 00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:38,559 i like the way that that teamwork works 843 00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:39,840 it's a little different than the 844 00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,600 experience i had before training for 845 00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,679 space station because i was i was flying 846 00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:44,799 with two russians and a lot of my 847 00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,799 training was solo so it's a neat 848 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,559 difference in the in the training to be 849 00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:50,880 on a team like that it gives you a bit 850 00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:52,640 wider experience 851 00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:55,039 for your future flights exactly well let 852 00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:56,480 me get you to tell us about what's going 853 00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:58,480 to happen let's start with eva number 854 00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:00,480 one you and drew are outside what's 855 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,240 what's on the uh what's on the timeline 856 00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:04,320 all right let's see so uh an eva one so 857 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:06,320 drew and i go out uh and this will be my 858 00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:07,760 first time out the door 859 00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,760 and um so the first thing i do is this 860 00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:11,279 thing that they haven't funny name for 861 00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:13,200 translation adaptation 862 00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:15,120 um because we're so used to training 863 00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:18,559 under water and you know underwater 864 00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:20,559 you know it helps you get a sense a 865 00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:21,600 sense of 866 00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,600 of course gravity is still there but the 867 00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:27,360 water resists your motion 868 00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:30,399 so it takes every effort to move and 869 00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:32,080 and very little effort to stop because 870 00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:33,919 the you you have the water helping you 871 00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:35,279 stop the motion 872 00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:38,159 um and in space your expectation is that 873 00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:40,080 you know that uh yeah it takes work to 874 00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:41,919 stop too because there's nothing slowing 875 00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,640 you down so uh so if i have a couple 876 00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:46,799 minutes do it to do that make sure i you 877 00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:48,640 know i don't go flinging myself off the 878 00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:51,520 station because i push too hard um while 879 00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:54,000 drew uh sets up a couple of tethers and 880 00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:55,600 uh and then the the main things we're 881 00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:56,960 doing this task is that there's an 882 00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:58,480 experiment called missy 883 00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:00,240 it's a space exposure experiment 884 00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:02,080 basically they're like large suitcases 885 00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:03,760 with lots of samples inside of it those 886 00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:06,000 samples can be everything from materials 887 00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:08,640 to paints to coatings to electronic 888 00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,399 equipment to biological samples and they 889 00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:12,640 could come from different organizations 890 00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:14,080 and it's the idea is to expose these 891 00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:15,279 things to the 892 00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:16,799 the harsh environment of space for a 893 00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:18,880 long period and see what happens you 894 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,960 know see see if the seeds seeds will 895 00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:22,960 still germinate see if a paint material 896 00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:25,039 will protect you know 897 00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:27,279 what's what's below it see if a circuit 898 00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:29,919 can still work you know and to help us 899 00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:33,200 design better systems for the future um 900 00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,880 and so there's a there's two experiments 901 00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,480 out there that are part of us missy 902 00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:38,559 seven we're going to retrieve those uh 903 00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:40,000 close them up 904 00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,120 take them back put them in the shuttle 905 00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,360 cargo bay and then we take new ones out 906 00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:45,200 of the cargo bay missy eight and we 907 00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:46,880 install them up on the up on the trust 908 00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,640 and they'll you know and they'll be out 909 00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:50,640 there for you know six months to a year 910 00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:53,279 before they uh come in so that's the 911 00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:54,720 first maintenance does this give you an 912 00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:56,080 opportunity to crawl way out on the end 913 00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:58,159 of the truck not way out but that comes 914 00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:00,080 later okay 915 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:03,840 yeah so uh so we do that and um and then 916 00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:05,200 the thing that one of the part of this 917 00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,960 four eva sequence is 918 00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:08,880 refilling a radiator 919 00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:09,840 that's 920 00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:13,360 and to do that we have to sort of 921 00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:15,440 connect a lot of 922 00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:17,520 ammonia hoses between a lot of segments 923 00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:19,679 including one that jumps across the 924 00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:20,799 rotating 925 00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:22,799 solar alpha rotary joint which normally 926 00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:24,399 can't have a hose running across it's 927 00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:26,000 connected to both ends because it has to 928 00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:27,520 spin freely 929 00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,480 so we're going to go out and we're going 930 00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:30,559 to connect all these hoses and then vent 931 00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:32,399 them basically so that they're filled 932 00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:34,480 with into the nitrogen we're going to 933 00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:36,399 vent them so that they're ready to be 934 00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:38,640 used for the ammonia fill on the next 935 00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:41,760 eva so that's uh that's another uh task 936 00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,640 and then 937 00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:44,640 um and we connect them all and we 938 00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,240 disconnect the part that jumps that 939 00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:48,399 joint so that the joint can still spin 940 00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:49,679 freely and the solar panels are out here 941 00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:51,679 they have to be able to 942 00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,440 to continue rotating 943 00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:55,600 and also in this space walk we have um 944 00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:57,120 there's some external it's kind of like 945 00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:58,880 your wireless hubs in your house you 946 00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:01,120 know or a network it's basically a 947 00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:03,039 couple of antennas and that enables a 948 00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:04,640 wireless system to be working outside 949 00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:05,919 the station so they're they're 950 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:07,600 experiments and payloads outside the 951 00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:08,960 space station they need to communicate 952 00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,480 to the data system 953 00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:12,480 and uh we're they're we're installing a 954 00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:14,080 couple of antennas and all the wiring 955 00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:16,480 for that to enable those 956 00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:18,640 those pieces of equipment or experiments 957 00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:20,320 whatever to communicate to internal 958 00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:22,240 systems through those antennas so it's a 959 00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:23,440 lot of wiring 960 00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:25,919 uh it's a little messy with long wires 961 00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:26,559 and 962 00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,080 it takes a while but um that's gonna be 963 00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:32,399 in the front of the space station near 964 00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:34,240 the shuttle and the thing that's still 965 00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:35,840 maybe interesting about that is just 966 00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:37,600 that in order for us to do that they 967 00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:40,320 have they have to disable some things 968 00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:42,799 you know internally that'll we may lose 969 00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,679 communication so um and we may have to 970 00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:47,200 like wave through the window and say 971 00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:48,559 everything's okay and then go down and 972 00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:49,840 finish the work and come back and say 973 00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:51,679 everything's okay so we'll see how that 974 00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:54,399 goes but it should be interesting 975 00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:56,240 as you mentioned two days later you and 976 00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:58,799 mike swaps places mike and drew go 977 00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,559 outside on the second space walk what 978 00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:02,159 are they going to do out there 979 00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:04,320 yeah so this is a very interesting uh 980 00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,559 challenging spacewalk 981 00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:08,159 there's two major tasks one of them is 982 00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:10,720 to refill that radiator that i mentioned 983 00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:12,799 and so ammonia has to fill these lines 984 00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:14,799 you know all the way out to the 985 00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:16,880 to the far end of the port side of the 986 00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:20,000 station and and while also that's going 987 00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:22,640 on that that rotary joint for the solar 988 00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:25,039 panel on that side has to be lubricated 989 00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:26,240 and this is a long-term maintenance 990 00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:28,000 thing just to make sure that it can go 991 00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:30,399 for 10 more years you know and and not 992 00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:31,919 have any uh 993 00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:33,360 friction you know in the with the 994 00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:34,720 bearings 995 00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:36,399 but that's a big joint i mean it's 15 996 00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:38,240 feet across it's got lots of covers on 997 00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:39,519 it all those covers have to come well 998 00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:40,559 not all of them some of the covers have 999 00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:42,080 to come off we're going to be inside 1000 00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:43,760 there with lubrication guns trying to 1001 00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:46,480 lubricate different surfaces 1002 00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:48,799 and this there's a lot of connectors to 1003 00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:49,840 do this 1004 00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,279 i think we're setting a record for how 1005 00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:53,440 many uh fluid line connectors were 1006 00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:55,039 connecting and disconnecting in order to 1007 00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:56,880 set up all these lines to do this this 1008 00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:59,360 ammonia fill and then take it all apart 1009 00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:01,120 at the end 1010 00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:03,279 and the danger is that 1011 00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:05,679 if there's a minor danger or just that 1012 00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:07,360 you know it could be with one of these 1013 00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:09,120 connectors that some ammonia leaks out 1014 00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:11,279 if ammonia gets on the suit 1015 00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:13,679 you know this is 100 ammonia 1016 00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:16,320 unlike the household variety and so if 1017 00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:17,919 any comes into the space station on the 1018 00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:19,840 suit that's a big problem 1019 00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,240 health-wise so we can't bring any in it 1020 00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:24,000 now we could bake it out on the suit but 1021 00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:25,440 we have to identify it and then go 1022 00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:27,519 through a procedure to make sure that uh 1023 00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:29,360 it's sort of 1024 00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:31,279 we can scrape it off or have it bake off 1025 00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:33,039 the soup so we'll be watching really 1026 00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:35,039 closely to see if you know 1027 00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:36,720 most likely drew 1028 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:39,039 gets contaminated if he does then we'll 1029 00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:40,880 have to you know be out for a certain 1030 00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:42,240 amount of time to make sure that there's 1031 00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,159 enough time for the sun to make it off 1032 00:33:48,789 --> 00:33:46,799 the suit and uh there's clean up steps 1033 00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:48,799 we can do and and inside the airlock we 1034 00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:50,720 can check if there's any ammonia as we 1035 00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:53,120 repress rise so this is our main concern 1036 00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:55,679 on this on this spacewalk but um but 1037 00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:57,600 it's really a 1038 00:34:02,070 --> 00:33:59,600 a ballet between 1039 00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:02,080 uh timing because as we do this this 1040 00:34:06,149 --> 00:34:04,159 fill it depends on 1041 00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:06,159 you don't you never want a part of the 1042 00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,359 uh that segment of of of of hoses 1043 00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:11,520 essentially of lines um filled with 1044 00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,560 ammonia without any way to expand um out 1045 00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:16,399 in the sun so you really want to do 1046 00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:18,079 certain things at night you know other 1047 00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:20,079 things in the day and so we're watching 1048 00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:21,359 the timing and 1049 00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:22,960 it's an interesting choreography with 1050 00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:24,399 that one um just trying to make sure 1051 00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:26,720 that we never not nothing is left to 1052 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,520 expand and have nowhere to go you know 1053 00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:31,760 and in the meantime 1054 00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,879 mike will be mostly focusing on on 1055 00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:36,720 the lubrication of the rotary joint 1056 00:34:40,629 --> 00:34:38,240 called the sarge joint solar alpha 1057 00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:40,639 rotary joint and drew will help him as 1058 00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:42,960 he can and then we have a couple of 1059 00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:44,320 other tasks while we're waiting they're 1060 00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:46,240 going to rotate the whole joint once 1061 00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:48,240 they've lubricated it and lubricate it 1062 00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:50,240 again in a different position 1063 00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:51,599 and then they'll put everything away so 1064 00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,359 it's it's a big spacewalk though a lot 1065 00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:55,440 of stuff and these same two guys are 1066 00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:57,440 going out again two days later but 1067 00:35:03,190 --> 00:34:59,440 before they do they're gonna 1068 00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:03,200 test out a new procedure for uh purging 1069 00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:04,960 nitrogen from a bloodstream right 1070 00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:07,440 spacewalkers have done this but you guys 1071 00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:09,040 are going to try out a new procedure 1072 00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:10,720 yeah tell me tell me about what th that 1073 00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:12,320 new procedure yeah this is very exciting 1074 00:35:15,910 --> 00:35:14,079 you know i mean it shouldn't you know it 1075 00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:15,920 when you watch a science fiction movie 1076 00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:17,200 and two people go out the door for a 1077 00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:19,280 spacewalk they don't take 48 hours to do 1078 00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:20,480 it you know they just somehow jump in 1079 00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:22,720 the suit and they're gone 1080 00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:25,040 in real life takes us a lot of time and 1081 00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:26,880 we'd like that to be you know 1082 00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:28,880 faster 1083 00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,400 for example on the first spacewalk we're 1084 00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,920 doing kampa which is one of the normal 1085 00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:33,599 things we do on the space station is we 1086 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:35,839 go into the airlock the night before we 1087 00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:38,480 depressurize the airlock down to 10.2 1088 00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:40,880 14.7 is a normal atmospheric pressure 1089 00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:43,440 down at 10.2 we breathe some oxygen off 1090 00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:45,760 masks in that process and we sleep at 1091 00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:47,280 the lower pressure and it's just like 1092 00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:48,480 scuba diving in a sense one you know 1093 00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:49,839 what you're trying to do is get the get 1094 00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:52,960 nitrogen out of your out of your body uh 1095 00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:55,280 out of your bloodstream you know and uh 1096 00:35:59,910 --> 00:35:57,920 out of your tissues and um and that 1097 00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,920 process you know by going by sleeping at 1098 00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:01,359 ten two overnight you get a certain 1099 00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:03,200 amount out by breathing oxygen you're 1100 00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:04,640 you know that helps them and then the 1101 00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:06,160 rest of the process to getting out the 1102 00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:08,160 door make sure that when you go all the 1103 00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,400 way out it it's like coming up from you 1104 00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:12,720 know depth i mean it's the opposite of 1105 00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:14,960 scuba diving super having you go down 1106 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:17,280 and it pressurizes then if it pushes 1107 00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:18,480 nitrogen into your tissues and if you 1108 00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:19,920 come up too fast the nitrogen can't 1109 00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:21,839 escape and can give you the bends here 1110 00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:23,520 it's the opposite we're going up first 1111 00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:25,040 you know we're going to a lower pressure 1112 00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:27,359 first and so that you you would get the 1113 00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:29,200 bends on the way out you know not on the 1114 00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:31,440 way back in so 1115 00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,480 anyway 1116 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:34,800 this is the normal process we go through 1117 00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:36,480 by sleeping overnight in the in the 1118 00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:39,119 airlock another technique is to do 1119 00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,040 exercise where you know we're we're 1120 00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:43,200 breathing 100 oxygen and we do exercise 1121 00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:44,800 on a on a bike 1122 00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:46,960 and um do a certain prescription of that 1123 00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:49,440 which is based on our our particular you 1124 00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:52,000 know uh physiology you know body weight 1125 00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:53,520 and and 1126 00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:58,480 know another sequence of oxygen 1127 00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:00,079 breathing and pressure changes before we 1128 00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:02,320 go out the door so this is a brand new 1129 00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:03,839 technique that would allow us not to 1130 00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:05,359 have to spend the night sleeping in the 1131 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:07,200 airlock locked up not have to do the 1132 00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:09,280 exercise you know before 1133 00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:11,280 basically get in the suit 1134 00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:12,640 and spend a little more time in the suit 1135 00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:14,400 doing some you know 1136 00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:17,760 with 100 oxygen doing very small motions 1137 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:19,440 um just to make sure that you're you 1138 00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:23,520 have some metabolic uh metabolism 1139 00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:25,599 you know going you're not sleeping in 1140 00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:27,680 there you have to be doing something 1141 00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:29,359 you're in there a little longer waiting 1142 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:31,520 to go out the door but um you know 1143 00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:34,320 overall the the whole process is 1144 00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:35,359 you know 1145 00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:37,680 much simpler and and you can do it on 1146 00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:39,440 the day of the spacewalk so we're going 1147 00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:41,839 to try that on uh a lot of work has been 1148 00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:43,119 done by a lot of people to make this 1149 00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:45,680 protocol work out and i will try that on 1150 00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:47,200 the third spacewalk and if it works 1151 00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:49,200 great we can do it on the fourth one too 1152 00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:51,520 okay eva number three as we said mike 1153 00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:53,599 and drew are going back outside what if 1154 00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:54,800 they what kind of work have they got in 1155 00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,000 front of them so on ava3 uh um 1156 00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:00,560 this is related to setting up um 1157 00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:02,720 ultimately it'd be nice if the if we had 1158 00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:05,200 the ability to have a our robotic arm 1159 00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:06,640 which can sort of inchworm around the 1160 00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:08,480 station you know it can grab in one 1161 00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:10,160 place and work from the other end and it 1162 00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,760 could it could also put that end down 1163 00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:13,680 and and and inchworm and then use the 1164 00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:16,079 other end as the active end to do work 1165 00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,839 we'd like a base for that closer to the 1166 00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:19,280 russian segment so we're basically 1167 00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:20,560 installing that 1168 00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:23,440 and uh it's a very big um 1169 00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:25,760 you know i'd say contraption in a sense 1170 00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:27,680 it's a combining russian and american 1171 00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,640 hardware um so it'll attach to the you 1172 00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:33,119 know to the front of the of the fgb the 1173 00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:35,280 for the the you know the forward most 1174 00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:36,480 part of the russian part of the space 1175 00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:38,400 station so we're bringing that out to 1176 00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,160 the hatch it's a very big thing 1177 00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:42,720 um it's got a lot of connections to make 1178 00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:44,480 and installing it 1179 00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:46,640 there and that'll allow the uh you know 1180 00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:49,040 the robotic arm to base itself in that 1181 00:38:53,430 --> 00:38:51,599 point and then do do work you know 1182 00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:53,440 closer to that part of the space station 1183 00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:56,480 so for the long duration um you know 1184 00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:57,920 it's a good thing for us to have that 1185 00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:59,599 ability to have the robotic arm work 1186 00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:00,880 there and i think they have some 1187 00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:03,119 specific tasks in mind you know for that 1188 00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:04,480 potentially later 1189 00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:05,359 um 1190 00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:12,079 i guess you could say power optimization 1191 00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:14,720 uh cabling to do and that that uh you 1192 00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:15,599 know 1193 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:17,359 for things that are already working but 1194 00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:19,760 but could fail if if power channel went 1195 00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:22,160 down um they're not the the power 1196 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:24,400 channels aren't optimally 1197 00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:26,160 distributed so that you lose the least 1198 00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,000 number of things you know if one thing 1199 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,000 fails and so there's some cables that 1200 00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:32,560 we're going to reroute um that basically 1201 00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:34,320 go forward from the russian segment to 1202 00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:37,040 the u to the u s segment um that that 1203 00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:39,839 changes that that improves that and uh 1204 00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:41,680 so it's it's just a matter of routing 1205 00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:43,680 some cables and some 1206 00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:45,119 connectors that are difficult to get to 1207 00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:46,400 but those are the main two tasks they'll 1208 00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,160 be doing on that space one and much of 1209 00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:50,560 this work was a 1210 00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:52,720 relatively late addition to your flight 1211 00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:54,720 right uh what were the circumstances 1212 00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,520 that caused these jobs to to move back 1213 00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:59,599 and to end up on your mission well i 1214 00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:00,960 think there's a there's a lot of things 1215 00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:03,200 that are always in flux you know and uh 1216 00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:04,319 i think as we get closer and closer you 1217 00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:06,640 know by the time we get cl you know uh i 1218 00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:08,240 mean now we're you know four months from 1219 00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:09,599 flight and we think we know what we're 1220 00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,040 going to be doing 1221 00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:13,200 but when the actual day comes 1222 00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:15,920 you know there's pro it could change and 1223 00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:17,200 i think this is one of those things it 1224 00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:18,720 just became a higher priority than 1225 00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,280 something else and 1226 00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:22,880 you know and also it's a matter of what 1227 00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:25,920 could be done on previous flights um 1228 00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:28,319 there was uh you may 1229 00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:29,920 recall not not too long ago there was a 1230 00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:32,960 problem with the ammonia 1231 00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:35,440 a pump system on the space station and 1232 00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:37,359 uh the the expedition crew the station 1233 00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:39,280 crew was supposed to go out and do part 1234 00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:41,200 of this spacewalk that we're doing now 1235 00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:42,800 and instead they spent three spacewalks 1236 00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:44,079 fixing this ammonia pump they're 1237 00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:45,680 replacing it which is you know those 1238 00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:47,359 pumps are made are expected to fail we 1239 00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:48,960 have the spares up there they had to do 1240 00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:51,280 the change out and they did and it took 1241 00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:52,800 them three space walks and this fell off 1242 00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:54,880 their plate and fell into ours so and 1243 00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:56,319 that could happen again before we fly 1244 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,079 you know you never know 1245 00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:00,720 with that in mind for the last eva with 1246 00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:03,520 uh you and mike going out the door uh 1247 00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:05,599 what's on the plan then for you guys on 1248 00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,160 eva number four so this is a this is an 1249 00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:10,560 exciting spacewalk for me uh 1250 00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:12,079 partly because i get to ride on top of 1251 00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:14,480 the robotic arm so box will be flying 1252 00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:15,520 the arm 1253 00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:16,800 but what we're doing is we're leaving 1254 00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:19,680 the boom there's a orbital it's called 1255 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:21,760 obss it's the inspection boom we have on 1256 00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:24,160 the shuttle to use to inspect the tiles 1257 00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:25,119 and 1258 00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,560 that you know that boom will be left 1259 00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:28,160 behind on the space station you know 1260 00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:30,560 with the idea that at some point if the 1261 00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:32,560 space station has to do some work it 1262 00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:34,319 would give the robotic arm more reach if 1263 00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:36,240 it could use this boom as well 1264 00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:38,000 and we have left it up there before we 1265 00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,920 have the mechanisms in place to leave it 1266 00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:41,760 up there so 1267 00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:43,440 we'll be attaching that boom to the 1268 00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:46,079 truss and locking it in place 1269 00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:48,480 and normally the shuttle arm grabs that 1270 00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:50,319 boom at the end and 1271 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:52,079 the station arm has a grapple fixture in 1272 00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:53,599 the middle but if we're going to use it 1273 00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:55,920 on the station at some future point you 1274 00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:57,520 want to be able to grab it from the end 1275 00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:59,040 so the grapple fixture at the end is not 1276 00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:00,560 the right kind and we have to change it 1277 00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:02,560 so it'll be kind of fun for mike and i 1278 00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,839 because we're kind of tearing this thing 1279 00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:05,760 apart in a way we're taking off that and 1280 00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:07,440 replacing it with a shuttle 1281 00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,680 a station a grapple fixture and we have 1282 00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:11,760 to cut some wires and pull this thing 1283 00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,599 off completely 1284 00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:15,200 and while we're doing that i'll be on 1285 00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:17,359 the station robotic arm and box will be 1286 00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:19,520 flying me around so uh that'll be an 1287 00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:21,680 exciting task to do 1288 00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:22,480 um 1289 00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:23,920 and 1290 00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,880 so we you know we do all of that uh 1291 00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:28,560 and um and 1292 00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:29,359 and 1293 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:31,760 when it's done um uh mike will be 1294 00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:34,480 bringing the old uh grapple fixture back 1295 00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:36,079 and putting it in the shuttle cargo bay 1296 00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:37,680 i'll be doing a couple of miscellaneous 1297 00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:40,880 tasks uh and then we'll meet on top of 1298 00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:43,599 um the the elc platform that we just 1299 00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:44,720 installed 1300 00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,520 and 1301 00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:48,000 the the uh i mentioned before the spdm 1302 00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,160 the the robotic 1303 00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:52,480 spare mechanism that's on that platform 1304 00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,079 they want to release some bolts on that 1305 00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:56,000 to make sure that it can be utilized 1306 00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:57,920 when needed and so mike and i are going 1307 00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:59,280 to be up there 1308 00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:00,560 these bolt there's there's some extra 1309 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,760 stress on these bolts so we have a 1310 00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:03,520 special pry bar we expect to be doing 1311 00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,160 some you know serious manual labor and 1312 00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,079 to try to break this thing free so we 1313 00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,560 can get those bolts off um 1314 00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:12,960 and uh but the neat thing about being on 1315 00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:15,040 on top of there is that so this will be 1316 00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:17,920 the last spacewalk uh potentially of the 1317 00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:19,839 entire shuttle program in terms of 1318 00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:22,160 building the space station and on top of 1319 00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:24,400 elc3 it's sort of the highest perch you 1320 00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:26,079 know above the whole space station so 1321 00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:27,359 we'll be on top 1322 00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:29,280 looking back at this the entire space 1323 00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:30,960 station that has been built now you know 1324 00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:33,359 by over 10 years by 15 countries and all 1325 00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:35,680 the shuttle flights and um 1326 00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:38,079 and on this last task we'll be able to 1327 00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:40,560 look and see the you know the fruits of 1328 00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:41,760 all that labor 1329 00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:43,599 the whole space station you know below 1330 00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:45,760 us so uh i think that's going to be a 1331 00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:47,520 special moment and we're bringing us a 1332 00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:48,960 good camera out to take some pictures up 1333 00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:49,839 there 1334 00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:52,640 of course sts-134 is the last flight 1335 00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:54,240 space shuttle endeavour you have any 1336 00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:56,160 thoughts about this ship's place in the 1337 00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,839 history of the human space flight 1338 00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:59,200 program 1339 00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:01,119 well i think that the whole shuttle 1340 00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:02,800 program um 1341 00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:03,599 you know 1342 00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:08,079 it leaves us kind of with a legacy of of 1343 00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:10,000 incredible amount of experience in space 1344 00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:10,640 i 1345 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:33,040 over those 30 years 1346 00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:34,480 you know we've learned how to do so much 1347 00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:36,480 from you know 1348 00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:38,240 not just of course launching and landing 1349 00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:41,359 a giant spaceship but but uh 1350 00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:43,520 um you know having cameras operating up 1351 00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,200 there and and the rendezvous and the 1352 00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:47,520 docking and spacewalks and robotics and 1353 00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:49,359 all this equipment that works in you 1354 00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:51,839 know in a vacuum and you know and how to 1355 00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:53,520 optimize it to work in a vacuum and 1356 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:56,079 bring it in and out 1357 00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:57,839 and you know and everything from you 1358 00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:59,520 know from the food 1359 00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,440 that we eat in space now which is which 1360 00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:03,359 is a much expanded menu compared to what 1361 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:05,359 was originally you know to how to build 1362 00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:06,880 a space toilet i mean everything in 1363 00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:09,440 between you know all the stuff that that 1364 00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:10,720 has been figured out during the space 1365 00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:12,800 shuttle program you know it's taken 1366 00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:14,560 it's taken you know science fiction 1367 00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:16,480 really and and made it reality over 1368 00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,680 those 30 years i think in the 1369 00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:21,280 you know in the early days the things 1370 00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:24,400 that we did before the shuttle um 1371 00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:25,200 were 1372 00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:26,800 magnificent and you know even though we 1373 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:28,000 haven't been back to the moon yet and we 1374 00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,160 haven't gone on to mars and further out 1375 00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:32,400 yet what we have done is learn how to 1376 00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:34,480 get incredible amount of hardware and 1377 00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:37,119 complex hardware in space and and and 1378 00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:39,680 operate with it and so i think that's 1379 00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:40,720 you know one of the things that the 1380 00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:43,359 space shuttle program has done for us um 1381 00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:45,280 has really made it possible to do all 1382 00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:46,880 the future things that we want to do in 1383 00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:48,640 space and with a lot of know-how an 1384 00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:51,200 unbelievable amount of know-how 1385 00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:53,599 and the legacy of the the shuttle 1386 00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:56,079 program i think is the is really the 1387 00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:58,800 space station you know we spent you know 1388 00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,119 the last more than a decade building the 1389 00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:04,079 space station and uh and there it is so 1390 00:46:07,589 --> 00:46:05,839 you know i mean you fly up to it and and 1391 00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:07,599 there's another there's another 1392 00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:09,599 spaceship in the sky as you approach it 1393 00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:10,960 and you get closer and closer and it 1394 00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:12,319 gets bigger and bigger and bigger and 1395 00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:14,079 bigger and it's a it's a massive 1396 00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:15,520 structure you know 1397 00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,640 it's uh 1398 00:46:20,069 --> 00:46:18,079 uh you know as you know it's you know 1399 00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:20,079 two foot football fields and sizes if 1400 00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,520 you lay it down and when you're inside 1401 00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:22,800 it you look at the window and you look 1402 00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,800 out the to this you know solar panels 1403 00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:26,480 out on the truss 1404 00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,160 it's far out there and those are big 1405 00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,480 solar panels and this big giant thing 1406 00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:32,400 that has all the science capability and 1407 00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,839 ability to keep six people living 1408 00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,520 comfortably you know for months at a 1409 00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,440 time it's just flying around the earth 1410 00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:39,440 you know running only on solar power you 1411 00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:41,200 know and we built this we built this 1412 00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:43,040 thing you know with the space shuttle so 1413 00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,640 i think the i think as the space shuttle 1414 00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:46,560 retires you know i think the legacy left 1415 00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:49,680 behind is really you know uh the the the 1416 00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:51,760 foothold that we have now on you know 1417 00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:53,040 everything we can do in the future in 1418 00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:54,880 space and the space station is that 1419 00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:57,440 foothold well on the subject of legacies 1420 00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:59,280 and and perspectives you're going to be 1421 00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:00,960 flying this mission right around the 1422 00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:02,880 50th anniversary of the first human 1423 00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,440 spaceflight by yuri gagarin and the 30th 1424 00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:07,119 anniversary of the first shuttle flight 1425 00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:08,400 yeah and 1426 00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:09,839 close to the 50th anniversary of the 1427 00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:11,599 first american space flight by alan 1428 00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,880 shepard yeah 1429 00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:14,480 what are your thoughts about 1430 00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:16,319 the fact that you are going to be in 1431 00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:18,720 space while everybody is paying 1432 00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:21,440 attention to these milestones 1433 00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,800 yeah it's amazing 1434 00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:24,960 i feel very lucky uh you know it's a 1435 00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:27,359 whole generation of of dreamers you know 1436 00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:29,280 like me who you know 1437 00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:32,160 who uh grew up on star trek you know and 1438 00:47:36,549 --> 00:47:34,880 uh and what saw apollo and and watched 1439 00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:36,559 all this happen and it's amazing you 1440 00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:38,800 know what we've accomplished in that 1441 00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:41,040 time you know i um 1442 00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:43,040 you can look back 100 years you know and 1443 00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:44,720 look at i mean kitty hawk the first 1444 00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:45,920 powered flight 1445 00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:46,880 and 1446 00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:49,200 that you know in fact if you look at the 1447 00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:51,119 you know the right flyer it almost kind 1448 00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:52,720 of looks similar to the space station in 1449 00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:55,440 its shape in a way and the first flight 1450 00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:56,960 of the right flyer would have would have 1451 00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:58,480 only been half the 1452 00:48:01,990 --> 00:48:00,079 distance of the size of the space 1453 00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,000 station you know in 100 years we've gone 1454 00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:04,800 from that to this incredible facility 1455 00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:07,599 you know flying in space so it's a 1456 00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:09,040 we've accomplished a lot i mean you know 1457 00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:09,839 the 1458 00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:12,880 uh 1459 00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:14,480 you know i think a lot of people wish we 1460 00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:16,160 were back on the moon and on to mars by 1461 00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:18,880 now and and so do i i hope i hope that i 1462 00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:21,359 would walk on mars in my career time but 1463 00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:22,559 but it is amazing how much we've 1464 00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:24,880 accomplished in 50 years and and uh it 1465 00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:26,800 took so many people to make all that 1466 00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:29,440 possible and it's it's an unbelievable 1467 00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:30,880 honor to kind of be the representative 1468 00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:32,960 of of that generation of dreamers for 1469 00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:35,359 for me if we've done that much in the 1470 00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:36,800 last 50 years 1471 00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:38,160 where do you think we're going to be 50 1472 00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:40,000 years from now 1473 00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:41,760 well i think that i think the key is 1474 00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:43,440 going to be you know the time when it 1475 00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:46,000 becomes profitable for for 1476 00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:47,680 more than just governments to be 1477 00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:49,520 operating in space and that time is 1478 00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,240 coming and um you know and once we kind 1479 00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:54,079 of pass that that transition i think 1480 00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:55,359 there'll be a lot more traffic you know 1481 00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:56,720 i hope to see 1482 00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:58,640 uh you know i said i'd like to i'd like 1483 00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,319 to have walked on mars in my career time 1484 00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:02,640 but maybe i can go as a for retirement 1485 00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:04,800 vacation someday you know but you know i 1486 00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:06,319 think we're going to see you know many 1487 00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:07,680 more people getting a chance to fly in 1488 00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:09,200 space and you know 1489 00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,800 i'm sure we'll see bases starting to 1490 00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,480 grow throughout the solar system you 1491 00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:14,400 know starting on the moon 1492 00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:18,079 um mars and and first colony and we'll 1493 00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:20,480 have the first people born in space and 1494 00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:22,640 and uh i think the future history our 1495 00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:25,520 future history will will have uh more 1496 00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:27,359 and more happening away from earth and